Amerika website has a post on a question I’ve pondered for many years. (Hat tip Sigma Frame.) This will be a fisking but not of my usual sarcastic type; there’s so much hit & miss that I need to untangle it and my own conclusions remain unsatisfactory.
http://www.amerika.org/politics/why-white-people-do-not-act-for-white-interests/
For years, white nationalists have pondered the question, .Why do whites not unite in our own interests?.
Part of the answer can be found in realizing that ethnic diversity is as destructive as racial diversity. People do not seek to unite with those who are not like themselves, even if a near-miss, because that, too, will be erasing themselves.
I can’t see this. White men hate their own children, hello Baby Boomers, and it’s hard to see an Irish marrying a German as being miscegenation on the level of a Japanese marrying a Hindu.
Also, this hasn’t been historically true. We certainly worked together to create the British Empire and the Roman Empire before that.
Rather, I think white man’s non-racist tendencies work against him. We lack that us-versus-them instinct that almost other races have, which is obviously a strong cohesive force.
Another answer is caste. White nationalism is a form of ethno-bolshevism, magically rebranding every white as equal, which is useful for caste-climbers but destructive to the hierarchy itself. The higher-IQ types naturally resist this because it would allow a French Revolution within the white race.
Being a higher-IQ type myself, I’d much rather live next door to white trailer trash than Latino/black trailer trash. There’ll be drug & welfare culture either way but whitey won’t despise me for being white. Also, no mariachi music.
Perhaps the biggest elephant in the room can be found in the enmity between whites. We detest the rest of them . whoever that is . because most of what we struggle against is other white people doing stupid and self-destructive things.
I’m listening. (Looks at Baby Boomers, cucks, neocons, Churchians & manginas.)
At this point we get to the core of the issue: white people have been infected by a virus, which we might call careerism to separate from the complex term individualism, in which each person wants to accrue as much power as they can independent from decency, or an understanding of the natural hierarchy within us.
This applies on two levels: those who have the chance of success want zero obligation to work toward making a thriving society, and those who have no chance of success want free handouts with money taken from the successful. These two groups slowly tear society apart in a sawing motion, back and forth between extremes when any internal motion is destructive.
This is class warfare, not race warfare. Financially successful coloreds don’t like funding their own losers, either.
Successful people or those who can be successful tend to look at the steaming pile of chaos that our society has become and formulate a simple response: get as much as you can, take it out of society, and then get yourself out by buying into some form of high-end gated community in a stable area.
We might categorize this, as the Leftists did, as bourgeois because it focuses entirely on the individual and what they want, and leaves zero room for regard of civilization, culture, history, values, or even the future of their children. A true bourgeois individualist sees someone who cares about anything larger than himself as a sucker.
Who would fight for this? There is nothing left to salvage. We are not protecting future genius here; no more genius, despite the “geniuses” the media fawns over, is coming out of this. Nor will it rise again to be a great civilization like Rome or Athens. It is a failed ruin, and the successful just want out.
Uh-oh. People who think individualism is the root of society’s problems are either Papists or Communists. Note that “buying into a stable, gated community” is the exact opposite of “taking it out of society”. This is not a coherent position.
Unfortunately, our society wholly validates their view. Our institutions are sodden with legal corruption, or the type of bureaucracy that delays every activity to siphon off wealth to a legion of clerks and lawyers. Our leaders are generally insane or idiotic, our mass culture is garbage, and every public figure seems generally foolish.
This comes close to where I currently stand. The damage inflicted by the Baby Boomers is incalculable, their treachery so unnatural that I’d call it literally inhuman. Humans do not behave like Boomers. Who betrays their own children hoping foreigners will appreciate them for doing so? Which suggests supernatural influence but that is not a productive line of inquiry.
Unsuccessful people or those who cannot be successful have one thing in common: they view the world through a filter of themselves. They are, usually by limitations in IQ, oblivious to the world outside them, the future beyond the next paycheck, and the implications of any action. …
This social science requires the manufacture of benefactors and scapegoats. A benefactor is someone to whom they can appeal for good things in lieu of acting to achieve those things themselves. If the crop fails, maybe the fertility god will help. A scapegoat is someone they can blame when this does not happen. The fertility god tried, but the rich man in the next village cast a witchcraft spell on the crop.
For these drones (cf. prole/pleb/serf/thrall) life consists of finding reasons to externalize cause and effect so that the drones can continue doing what they always do, which is to live at a subsistence level while loudly blaming others for their plight. They cannot do otherwise; this is their nature.
Again, this is class warfare not race warfare. Irrelevant.
Our aristocrats suppressed careerism for centuries. They roped the successful into a social order that required them to participate in the running of civilization, even informally. They oppressed the unsuccessful because the proles are uniformly awful in their judgment and will ruin any organization in which they are given power.
The aristocrats roped themselves into a social order? Dumbass, the reason society has problems is NEVER because ordinary men have free will. Society’s reason for existing in the first place is to serve the people for the people’s benefit, not oppress them into a socially approved mold. The government’s job is maintaining order and keeping water in the taps, not forcing me to have enough babies to keep its welfare state from collapsing.
Now then, back on topic, please. Why whites lack racial cohesion.
[skipping noblesse oblige, democracy & voting habits]When they look out at those white prole faces, they want them dead. They are correct. Every dollar they make over $48k a year, the proles want to take. Every task a successful person undertakes, proles line up to do work slowly, point out union rules as if impressed by their own stupidity, or otherwise graft, grift, and leech.
The successful see the vast array of social programs we have and realize that white proles are the ones who demand these, which means that the successful are not successful; they are slaves. They work half of the year just to support the proles for being . well, it’s not brilliant, is it? . alive and breathing.
This is wrong. The welfare state foments women against men, not lower-class whites against upper-class whites. Now we’re talking gender warfare. Skipping on:
Let us face it, white people: we hate each other. The vast white herd always does wrong. Those who try to escape become corrupted by the democratic ideal of the individual as a demigod. The harder we try to fix our society, the more rules we add, and the worse it becomes. We are in a death spiral.
Democracy is hostile to individualism. Neither is a race issue. Look, these can’t be motivations for intra-white animosity because it’s in our own best interest to group up against vibrant outsiders today, as South Africa is learning this very second. The Dindus want us dead, the Chinese are buying up our land and the Latinos are accepting all the free money our gov’t will take out of our wallets. We have every socioeconomic incentive possible to group up.
And yet, we aren’t grouping up. That’s a very interesting and urgent issue… but not an economic issue, political issue or a “you’re too French for this Scotsman” issue. It isn’t a death spiral, either. Me hating a white legislator who decrees our common race’s extinction is hardly me hating whites.
Enough with the conflations, please. The article’s conclusion:
When we break free from this illusion [of Utopia], and recognize that we need not “white unity” but an internal hierarchy to white people, and a purpose to which we all work as a duty, then our future begins. Our future begins when we reject the ideals of this time but do so in favor of an organic ideal, where we work unequally toward a goal.
Whites never unified because whites are not the same. We are divided by ethnicity, region, and social class. We can work together toward a similar goal, such as (cough) restoring Western Civilization, because it benefits all of us, unequally and independently. We can make our future.
While my knee-jerk reaction is re-pointing out that whites HAVE unified in the past, there’s something to be said about division by region. Tolerance of other races isn’t a vulnerability when other races are far away. Perhaps hatred of outsiders is the necessary price of having the entire planet no more than 24 hours’ flight away?
We have no unity. We need no unity. Instead what we need is a purpose, a goal. In that, we can work together despite being different, and through that, we can make greatness. All that stands in our way is the pretense that we are equal. When that dies, Western Civilization rises, and through it, so do we.
I suspected this solution when the author made digs against individualism. White nationalists talk a good game but at the end, all they can offer are the usual power games. Unifying all whites by denying them equality with you is not going to work out. Remember how frightfully good the white man is at war.
Meanwhile, we whites still aren’t grouping up. I offer three causes:
1. Treacherous leadership. It’s unbelievable how every last single white gov’t official in the entirety of North America, UK and more than half of Europe is anti-white in matters of immigration and encouraging diversity. Of course we won’t band together when every possible leader is a known race traitor.
2. Decline of Christianity. I take pride in how Christianity has fit into white cultures the best of all cultures in the world and our devotion has carried us to great accomplishments. Not surprising, then, if our accomplishments fall apart with the mysterious death of organized Christianity.
3. Our women think we’re boring. White cohesion died paralleling the rise of female emancipation. I suggest that white men are so self-controlled, intelligent and dispassionate that our women would rather fuck a Maori lice hotel. Consequently, we’re so busy salvaging our homes that there’s not much gas left in the tank for salvaging our culture.
The solution is simple. In white areas, white people matter the most. That’s all. But even white nationalists want to enslave fellow whites to their personal agendas. Nobody wants to be our peer; everybody wants to be our tyrannical master. Even our own people.
Well umc Whites certianly hate lower class Whites. That was on display here with comments on tattoos. It also shows in how they vote.
I hate yankees. They destroy everything good, right and just. They armed negroes and sent them South to kill Southern Whites so the yankees could keep collecting tariff money.
You can also see how ethnic Whites vote and how that, teamed up with yankees pretty much destroyed what little was left of the union after the war of northern aggression.
‘2. Decline of Christianity. I take pride in how Christianity has fit into white cultures the best of all cultures in the world and our devotion has carried us to great accomplishments. Not surprising, then, if our accomplishments fall apart with the mysterious death of organized Christianity.’
Totally agree.
‘3. Our women think we.re boring. White cohesion died paralleling the rise of female emancipation. I suggest that white men are so self-controlled, intelligent and dispassionate that our women would rather fuck a Maori lice hotel. Consequently, we.re so busy salvaging our homes that there.s not much gas left in the tank for salvaging our culture.’
Feminism.
The root of a lot of white people problems in society came from the decline of Christianity, which at no point has the claim of female emancipation (1 Corinthians 11:11-12), and the rise in feminism. You’re even beginning to see it in some of the Latin American countries and it has been a part of the black community in America for a while.
“Well umc Whites certainly hate lower class Whites. That was on display here with comments on tattoos.”
But I’m a lower class white… and LC whites didn’t used to get tattoos like today’s sleeves and facial tats. UC whites get tattoos now, too, just in concealable spots. As I mentioned in that article, the motive behind male tattoos these days is to attract women. That’s not a social ranking.
This was how the amerika article played out. The reasons it gave for intra-racial conflict were class, gender & economic divisions… none of which is a race division. You don’t see rich Asians replacing poor Asians with poor whites, for example. Their racial loyalty outweighs economic conflicts. We not having racial loyalty makes our economic conflicts visible but that is not causation.
We’re a deeply divided people even though we don’t want to be. Other races such as blacks have managed to act cohesively despite the death of family structure, religion and just about every other social support.
‘Other races such as blacks have managed to act cohesively despite the death of family structure, religion and just about every other social support.’
The only real cohesiveness they have is hating white people. They are still quite dysfunctional amongst themselves.