ID as in Idaho. While vacationing last weekend in Los Angeles, I saw a hit piece on right-wing extremism in the LA Times. Despite being badly short on facts and long on OMG there’s an alt-right white nationalist still breathing somewhere!, it gave some interesting directions for me to look in. As you’re no doubt aware, Idaho specifically and the Pacific Northwest generally are top destinations for right-thinking Americans who want to check out of the Convergence. Let’s see what’s going on up north!
Hatred Still At Home In Pacific Northwest
[Dead Tree Edition, Page A7]By Nicholas K. Geranios, 29 May 2019
Nearly two decades after the Aryan Nations’ Idaho compound was demolished, fat-right extremists are maintaining a presence in the Pacific Northwest.
White nationalism has been on the rise across the U.S., but it has particular resonance along the Idago-Washington border, where the Aryans espoused hate and violence for years.
The neo-Nazi group was based near Hayden Lake, Idaho, starting in the 1970s, and eventually was bankrupted in a lawsuit brought by local activists and the Southern Poverty Law Center. Its compound was auctioned off and supporters dispersed.
So, the Left tried to silence them by destroying them and it didn’t work. Now instead of keeping to their fortress of solitude, they’re everywhere and going mainline. Great work, ye who persecute all wrong-thinkers at every chance. Now you need to ratchet the persecution even higher, when instead you could simply have left them to freeze at Podunk Lake or wherever in the Idaho panhandle.
Let’s review the Hayden Lake case. It was so long ago, I’ve practically forgotten it. Begin segue.
Welcome to Hayden Lake, where white supremacists tried to build their homeland
https://timeline.com/white-supremacist-rural-paradise-fb62b74b29e0
Hayden Lake is a tiny town, home to about 600 people. Naturally beautiful, with shaggy pine trees and crystal-clear waters, it sits on the outskirts of Coeur d.Alene, a city of roughly 45,000 people, nearly 95% of whom are white. To the east is the Coeur d.Alene National Forest, more than 700,000 acres of dense evergreen wilderness.
It was the perfect place, according to Aryan Nations leader Richard Girnt Butler, to set up a white nationalist compound, away from “the mongrel masses.” Butler left California and purchased 20 acres of land there in the early 1970s. He erected a sign at the entrance to his property that read “White kindred only.” The Aryan Nations was born.
.Aryans are Nordic in their blood,. Butler said. .North Idaho is a natural place for the white man to live.” Butler was a proponent of the Northwest Territorial Imperative, or the idea that whites deserve their own homeland, and that the rural American Northwest…where land was cheap, sparsely populated, and already majority white…was the right region for it.
Okay. Take your freak private if you don’t want to control it.
Butler built out a compound and began inviting other white nationalists to join him there. They came by the dozens, and eventually by the hundreds. In 1982, he began hosting a yearly summer festival called the Aryan World Congress, where he brought together white extremists from around the nation and introduced him to a blend of religion and racism called Christian Identity. .In simplest terms,. writes Bill Morlin at Boise State University’s The Blue Review, “Christian Identity believers are convinced that the Bible tells them white people of Northern European ancestry are God’s chosen…direct descendants of Adam and the “true Jews…
That’s not an accurate depiction of Christian Identity, a philosophy/movement I have some personal knowledge of. America was a great, God-blessed nation and very devout. In Christian End-Times mythology, the nation Israel is frequently and specifically mentioned. But Israel did not exist. Many Christians came to believe that America was the new Israel, the Promised Land for the future. A major stretch of Scripture (for example, the 144,000 of Revelation are subdivided into specific Jewish tribes) but mostly harmless. There was even a significant school of thought that Christ wouldn’t return at all, that instead America would gradually turn the world into Niceland and Jesus would descend when our work was done to thank us for our hard effort. A form of amillenialism, I recall.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amillennialism
Then 1946 came along and poof, Israel was back on the map.
Most Christians of the above persuasion shrugged and decided they were wrong, and the Israel of the future was probably actual, geographic Israel. But a fringe movement began that claimed America was the real Israel and geo-Israel’s correct identity was Esau. This re-identification is how the term Christian Identity came about.
CI wasn’t a white nationalist movement, despite Butler’s claims of founding it. (He created a church in order to qualify for tax-exempt status. He didn’t get it.) It was a specifically anti-Jew movement. Their closest political ally was the John Birch Society, not the Neo-Nazis, although the latter’s beliefs were compatible.
Journalists these days, they aren’t interested in such differences. They want to lump all badthinkers into a giant white cauldron of Them.
Throughout the 70s, the seclusion of the Hayden Lake compound had meant little interaction with the local community. Law enforcement, meanwhile, was loath to encroach, because Butler had registered the property as a non-profit church called the Church of Jesus Christ-Christian.
More likely they didn’t have a reason to. No complaint, no foul, and then you have those pesky Amendments concerning probable cause.
Daily life on the compound involved, among other things, attending sermons delivered by Butler, who stood at a pulpit before the Aryan Nations symbol: a swastika pierced with a sword. Almost universally, Butler is regarded as an ineloquent and uninspired speaker. .I was unable to see any charismatic qualities to him, and I did look for those,. says Norman Gissel, a Coeur d.Alene attorney who helped form a task force to deal with the group, in an interview with Idaho Public Television. .I was unable to see anything but a boring old man who was wildly wrong on almost every subject known to mankind..
Such objectivity! But yeah, Butler was a fraud of a Christian.
But Butler’s ideological blend of Christianity and Nazism was unique, and potent. What he lacked in dynamism, he made up for in the seductiveness of his vision. Additionally, says Gissel, .I did see video tapes of him talking in a casual way to young men,. in which it was clear “how adoring and attracted they were to him.” He was “perhaps a father-like figure to them..
Butler had particular success with outreach to formerly incarcerated white men, who according to Morlin would “come to Butler’s compound from places like Arizona or Texas or wherever, and would live for a short period of time in a bunkhouse that he had there.” In exchange, Butler put them to work in his printing press creating leaflets, and then sent them to distribute the literature in Coeur d.Alene and Spokane.
He was a poor Jim Jones clone but gained a following by helping out ordinary men fallen on hard times. One day soon, the next politician is going to discover what an amazingly effective recruiting tool it is to give a single care about white men.
Most of the crimes connected to the Aryan Nations were committed outside of Hayden Lake, many outside of Idaho altogether. One of those crimes was the murder of Jewish talk-radio host Alan Berg. At the World Congress at Hayden Lake in 1983, the Colorado organizer of the Aryan Nations David Lane met another member named Robert Jay Mathews, who invited him to join an exclusive group called The Order. The group was active for just over a year, during which time it counterfeited money, set up paramilitary training camps, hijacked armored cars, detonated bombs and more. In June of 1984, members of The Order, including Lane, murdered Berg in his driveway in Denver.
Mathews was killed later that year in a shootout with FBI agents in Washington. Lane went on to wield great influence over white supremacists from behind bars until his death in 2007. He authored what are known as the 14 Words: .We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children.” The number 14 continues to symbolize allegiance to the Aryan Nations. vision of a white homeland. …
July of 1998, says Tony Stewart, director of the local task force set up expressly to deal with the Aryan Nations, Butler “finally made the decision that he wanted to march on the streets of Coeur d.Alene. And it caused a tremendous uproar.” The city sought to prevent the march. .Of course,. says Stewart, .under US Supreme Court decisions you can.t, you have to be content-neutral on parades, unless some group is going to engage in violence. So he won in court, to say that they would have to let him march..
The majority of people who lived in the region were appalled by news of the impending march. One newspaper included placards in its pages, meant for display, depicting a handshake between a black and white hand. .There were a lot of windows that had those placards in there as a message,. says Morlin, that “the good people of this area don’t stand for this sort of hatred.” The task force even collected money from lemonade stands run by resident families, and used the proceeds to promote diversity in the local schools.
Ladies and gentlemen, the White Man’s instinctive hatred of lesser races. In hindsight, the freaks were right… but the freaks didn’t know they were right at the time, not having said anything about the newly initiated immivasion of America. Very confusing for us today.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups and seeks to undermine their influence using a variety of legal and educational tactics, had its eye on Hayden Lake from nearly the beginning. But there was no way to nab them…the SPLC had filed lawsuits against them before, without success. Even though the compound was a meeting place and training ground for murderers such as Buford O. Furrow, Jr., who wounded five at a Los Angeles Jewish community center before killing a Filipino postal worker, the group covered its tracks and remained relatively untouchable.
Most likely, the camp was simply a camp. I don’t doubt there were violent spinoffs but if that was grounds for shutting it down then Antifa is proof that Portland and Berkeley need martial law imposed. I’m happy either way; either we DON’T blame Butler for Buford’s behavior or we DO blame the SPLC for Antifa’s terrorism.
That is, until Victoria and Jason Keenan came along. In July of 1998, the same month as the first Coeur d.Alene parade, the mother and son were returning from a wedding, driving a dirt road that ran alongside the compound, when their car backfired. Aryan Nations guards, intoxicated at the time, mistook the sound for gunfire and chased the Keenans, shooting multiple rounds at the car and eventually running it into a ditch. The Keenans were then held at gunpoint and beaten with rifles.
Sounds like the SPLC resorted to a false flag. Did the Neo-Nazis really have drunk, heavily armed guards chasing down cars on foot that happened to wander by their remote camp?
When reports of the assault surfaced in local media, SPLC co-founder Morris Dees went straight to Idaho to provide Norman Gissel’s legal team with all the assistance it needed. A suit was filed in 1999, and in 2001 a jury ruled that Butler and the Aryan Nations had been “grossly negligent” in failing to supervise and control the activities of its guards. The jury awarded $6.3 million in damages to the Keenans. Butler was bankrupted, and the compound became the property of the defendants.
Ah, Morris Dees. The SPLC is trying very hard to disappear their co-founder for reasons that still haven’t been completely leaked but probably rhyme with rapist. Question: why was a CRIMINAL case of kidnapping and felony assault with deadly weapons tried as a CIVIL matter? Because that case was never about justice.
End segue and going ALL the way back to the LA Times article.
In [Kootenai County] that is home to Hayden Lake, Republicans last month passed a measure expressing support for U.S. entry of a prominent Austrian far-right activist who was investigated for ties to the suspected gunman in the mass mosque shootings in New Zealand.
I don’t think we need to qualify Brendan Tarrant as the “suspected” New Zealand shooter. Remember he livestreamed it? Fricking selfie culture.
In Late April, a self-described “American nationalist” named Brittany Pettibone appeared at a meeting of Kootenai County, Idaho, Republicans to ask for help to bring her boyfriend, Martin Sellner, to the country from Austria. Pettibone, 26, said Sellner wants to marry her and live in Post Falls, Idaho.
Sellner. Pedo combination in the eyes, nose & mouth… Inner ear cup reaches far outside the outer cup, suggesting his internally-generated reality is his preferred reality (one might say instead that he’s an idealist at heart. Same thing)… good chin, however, he’s got courage to act on his beliefs… there’s no healthy reason for a man to have Skrillex hair. I would not let him in the country. He’s a terrorist risk, believing strongly in white nationalism and having the grit to act upon it.
Whoa… does he look like Chad to you?
Brittany Pettibone and her twin sister, Nicole. Gawddammit! Republicans sit around and whine that there’s nothing they can do to stop the Communists because the latter passed Immigration Law X and the former were told “No” by activist Judge Z, but when a beautiful young woman smiles at them and says pleeease let my friend of mass murderer Brenton Tarrant into America so I can marry him, they instantly and publicly defy the State Department’s terrorist watch list.
Dick move, Republicucks. A literally dick move. How can you think with your balls without being able to find them?
Pettibone was a big promoter of the hoax known as “Pizzagate,” telling her online followers that Hillary Clinton and other high-profile Democrats were involved in satanic rituals and child sex trafficking tied to a pizza restaurant in Washington, D.C.
Pettibone talks the alt-right talk but then she humps the white-nat Chad. Do Arkancides count as satanic rituals?
Sellner is a leading figure in the extremist Identitarian movement, which espouses a white nationalist ideology and has swept over Europe amid an influx of migrants and refugees. He has confirmed that he exchanged emails with [Brenton Tarrant], who donated money to Sellner’s group. But Sellner denies involvement in the attack.
Approximately $1700 in early 2018. They corresponded until July 2018, so far as Austrian law enforcement knows. The hack writing this LA Times piece didn’t waste his limited brainpower on context.
Despite his background, the Kootenai County Republican Central Committee [GQ: I checked and yes, Orwellian names are apparently not just for Leftoids] passed a resolution urging the federal government to allow Sellner into the United States. The resolution said the government revoked Sellner’s travel privileges “for political reasons,” and demanded those privileges be reinstated.
Let’s not take the political hack at his word. Segue:
The Kootenai County Republican Central Committee’s policy positions are articulated in our State Party Platform. In there you will find we support the rule of law, that people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, and that the freedom of political speech is a fundamental, God given right. As the Party of Lincoln we are extremely committed to the words of Martin Luther King that ..people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character..
What cucks. The Bill Of Rights are for Americans, not the entire world. No wonder these guys can’t stem the immivasion, when they believe that every single one of them must be convicted in a court of law before being sent back.
If a nonresident wants to enter our country then the State Dept. can deny him for any reason or none at all. It’s not a freedom of speech issue. It’s not an “innocent until proven guilty” issue.
It’s a “Brittany is in love” issue.
After our regular agenda was published we were approached with a late request to allow a local Republican, Brittany Pettibone to address the committee regarding an issue with her fianc? Martin Sellner. What was generally known at the time was that she was a constituent, a Republican and had an issue with the US government. The Kootenai County Republican Central Committee firmly believes all citizens have the right to petition their government for redress. I gave her permission to address the committee before our formal meeting started.
I don’t believe the Founders intended women to have that right but yes, it does exist. That’s when you hear her out then tell her No.
Later in the meeting there was a motion made noting Martin Sellner had broken no law in Austria or the US and was not under any known investigation, therefore the motion encouraged the US government to ..reinstate Martin Sellner’s travel privileges..
Like I said: Dick. Move.
To be absolutely clear, the Kootenai County Republican Central Committee condemns all forms of racism and bigotry. The Kootenai County Republican Central Committee also condemns all forms of political violence and intimidation practiced by groups like ANTIFA, Indivisible and Reclaim Idaho, including publishing personal information (doxxing), intimidating employers, preventing the exercise of free speech, violent protests, property destruction and physical assault.
CUUUUUCK! Gonna be hard to defend the borders if you’re colorblind.
End segue.
Also last month, the Guardian published internet chats from 2017 in which a Washington state legislator and three other men discussed confronting “leftists” with a variety of tactics, including violence, surveillance and intimidation.
The Times author complains about us using surveillance and intimidation… by publishing two-year-old private internet chats to get Matt Shea pushed out of a chairmanship. You can read more here if you’re bored.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/20/matt-shea-rightwing-messages-chat-records
Shea, who rarely speaks to reporters, did not return numerous messages from the Associated Press.
Smart man.
Matt Shea. He has a remarkably small face for the size of his head. That indicates a thick-skinned ability to compartmentalize his life. (Draw a circle around the eyes & mouth and compare it to the head’s silhouette.) Eyebrows heavy on the inside, near the nose are visionary. (Eyebrows heavy on the outside are managerial.) I’d expect he starts much more than he finishes. Especially legislation, since the top third of his face is the largest (the intellectual third).
[Shea] has served in the state House since 2008, introducing bills to criminalize abortion and roll back gun laws and pushing for eastern Washington to secede from the rest of the state.
Everybody needs a hobby but secession ain’t going further than that. America still hasn’t seen leadership that hates immigration so why bother with setting up a new government destined to repeat old mistakes?
The military veteran attracted international attention in 2018 after a document he wrote laid out a “biblical basis for war” against people who practiced same-sex marriage and abortion, and instructed: “If they do not yield, kill all males.”
I’m pleased to see any politician come down hard on Sodomy. There’s fewer every year. Yes, God wanted homosexuals and child murderers put to death and I doubt His attitude has swayed in the millennia since. Nothing the homosexuals are doing in California is going to change His mind, that’s for sure.
Myself, I’d rather see homosexuals cured so they can live a normal life. But the Left keeps banning those efforts.
Lastly, the article mentions the Proud Boys I’ve covered before. Despite the abdication of their leader Gavin McInness, they seem to still be a coherent organization… and have been terrorizing the bar district of Spokane. I have trouble seeing the Proud Boys as any kind of white nationalist group, seeing as they accept a lot of brown members, but nothing gets between me and a drinking story!
As the video starts, a dozen or so 40 to 50-year-old men . dressed in red Make America Great Again hats and an assortment of black and gold polos and camo . walk through downtown Spokane, capturing their Saturday night out as “Proud Boys.”
On the bar crawl for the local chapter of the national right-wing men’s group, they talk about “libtards” and “triggering” people who disagree with their less than politically correct views. They specifically choose to hit up some of the city’s most popular alternative nightlife spots, places with “All Are Welcome Here” signs.
One specific place with an “All Are Welcome Here” sign. Pic below.
Minutes into the first of several videos, the men duck into an alley to “initiate” a member. Five guys punch him as he smiles and shouts out the name of five breakfast cereals.
It’s absurd, and it’s part of the “joke” element of the Proud Boys, says William Hulings, vice president of the Eastern Washington/Northern Idaho chapter that was started in August. Hulings is the one who filmed and posted the Nov. 10 video, and he sees Proud Boys as a drinking fraternity.
But when it’s suggested others might not think the group is funny anymore . it’s been labelled a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center and linked with violent fights across the country . Hulings concedes that things have changed since its founding in 2016.
Always the SPLC calling the shots. They must pimp a lot of sex slaves to be so highly respected.
While the Proud Boys organization has repeatedly tried to distance itself from white nationalism and white supremacy, denouncing neo-Nazis and anti-LGBT sentiments and barring members who hold those beliefs, its members also regularly attend rallies by groups like Joey Gibson’s Patriot Prayer group. Gibson’s organization also denounces racism, but repeatedly attracts white supremacists to its events. Some Proud Boys have gotten in violent brawls with anti-fascists, or antifa, in and around their gatherings.
“What concerns a lot of people from a community perspective, and apparently also law enforcement, is the fact that there isn’t a strong border between them and other more extreme groups,” says Kate Bitz, who helps track hate groups in the region as a fellow in the Western States Center’s Defending Democracy program.
Piss off, Kate. You didn’t condemn Bike Lock Antifa Man loudly enough so you’re a left-wing extremist! You and your little dog Toto, too.
There’s no pleasing the Left. One wonders why so many people still try. Especially people claiming to be Proud.
Hulings, who identifies as a Trump supporter and nationalist (though not a white nationalist), says he’s felt targeted. People at progressive rallies here have passed around his picture, claiming he takes inappropriate photos and publishes identifying information on people he disagrees with online . a tactic known as doxing. He says he’s personally been doxed after supporting Patriot Prayer in Portland and Seattle, and people have threatened online to “feed this f—er a brick.”
Hulings mentions repeatedly that antifa are “kinda our enemy.” He despises being called a hate group, and points to the fact he’s half-Asian and other members are Mexican as proof they’re not racists or Nazis.
I’ve mentioned before, the difference between hating someone and wanting to hate someone. There’s nothing Hulings can do to please the Left. He could betray everybody who ever trusted him and donate a billion dollars, and some fat, bald bitch would still claim he rayyped her five years before she was born.
You know what Hulings’ real problem is? He goes to bars owned by Woke freaks. As we see:
But after the “Triggered Spokane” videos were posted, many bar owners began wrestling with the question of whether and how to ban the group from patronizing their establishments.
The conversations caught on camera that night were mostly civil. One woman repeatedly asks “what is a Proud Boy?” if they’re really not white supremacists or haters, if everyone online has it wrong. She never gets a solid answer, other than “we’re a drinking group.”
It’s clear, though, that the goal was to get some sort of reaction.
“We don’t have antifa fighting in the streets here and that’s supposed to be their thing. We don’t have that so they’re actually out trying to cause trouble,” says Tyson Sicilia, owner of the Observatory bar downtown. “They never got the reaction they were looking for.”
While the Spokane chapter may seem relatively harmless right now, Sicilia says his biggest fear is what might happen if they do get the reaction they want.
The Proud Boys were secretly videotaped by Antifa plants and… revealed to be mostly harmless. BUT THEY COULD GET MUUUUCH WORSE! LIKE CLIMATE CHANGE! BAN THEM NOW! NOW! NOW!
No wonder I couldn’t find the “Triggered Spokane” video.
“They look like kind of a joke,” he says. “The problem is, the guys that are pissed about them are not a joke. There’s some big metal and punk kids that want to stomp them into the ground, and … I don’t want to give them any notoriety, but I also want people to be aware of how to handle them, and not to fight them so we don’t have a million more Proud Boys here in Spokane.”
How, he wonders, can Spokane’s bar scene take seriously the threat of a potential hate group baiting people, while convincing their customers and friends the best thing to do is not to engage?
We’ve graduated from banning hate groups to banning potential hate groups. Do these Leftoids even have jobs? Bartending isn’t keeping them busy. Or sober.
Locally, Spokane members went into the Checkerboard Bar and told then-bartender Tina Rodriguez that they were going to go to the nearby bar and start a fight with gay men, describing them with a slur, she says.
“That was the last straw for me,” says Rodriguez, who quit after she didn’t feel the Checkerboard owners took swift enough action to stop the group from coming to the bar. “They make you feel unsure about your feelings about them because you start questioning things. They’re multiracial, oh, they’re having this perfectly civil conversation with someone, oh, you can be gay and be a Proud Boy. That might be the case, but I don’t even think the Proud Boys understand what the Proud Boys stand for honestly.”
I tried to find her picture but encountered witchcraft guides instead. Tina contradicting herself will have to do as proof she’s a feminist.
A few weeks ago, bands stopped booking shows at the Checkerboard after finding out the Proud Boys were meeting there. Co-owner Ashley Maye put out a call to see how she should address concerns. Without naming the group, she said they hadn’t caused problems, but she wanted to know what to do.
“At first I’m so confused, why is everyone so offended by this group? Then I did some research, and that was my bad,” Maye says. “So I was like, ‘OK, so I don’t want any of that in the bar.’ … It doesn’t matter if you’re extreme right, extreme left, religious, that stuff shouldn’t be at a bar anyways.”
The PBs are neither extremists nor religious. Leftoid bands stopped playing at the bar in protest against their MAGA hats and she gave in to their pressure.
The Proud Boys then claimed they actually meet at the Observatory.
“I said, ‘Oh really? They absolutely do not, and they’re not welcome,’” says Observatory owner Sicilia.
Soon, someone stole pictures from his Facebook and created a new page in his name, posting Nazi and KKK memes making him look like a white supremacist. He got the account removed and reported to police, but it was a taste of the rapid social media reaction the group is known for.
That ain’t Proud Boy modus operandi. Oh wait, rapid social media RE-action. Maybe it is. I haven’t seen PBs start fights but I have them on video ending fights. If you know what I mean.
Mr. Sicilia. It’s a gay bar. Note the sign over his shoulder.
He and others like Patty Tully, longtime owner of Baby Bar, plan to meet again this week to figure out the best tactics to address the group with a united front.
Screening for MAGA hats and the PB uniform of yellow-trimmed, black polo shirts could be a good start.
It would be great to see North Idaho become a hotbed of hard-right nutcases… it’s an out-of-the-way spot and unlike socialism, white nationalism is at least compatible with American principles of gov’t… but even there, we see the same Republicucks and Convergence elements beavering away.
There’s no safe harbor for the Red-Pilled.
Pretty sure they (the NZ guy and white barbie) are just the controlled opposition to clownworld that needs to continue in order clownworld exists. I have immediate skepticism of any of these creations largely founded on media foundation.
White nationalism is a Leftist philosophy but looks close enough to actual nationalism that it’s an easy source of moles, false flags and ordinary conflation. It’s another reason I don’t want Sellner in America.
One lesson of Charlottesville is how easily the Left can use a single Neo-Nazi to strawman everybody on the Right without shame.