A couple posts ago, I discussed Church skanks who were so insecure about their husbands’ potential infidelity after a marital lifetime of sex privation by wifey, that they’d ratcheted their demands of male purity to the biologically impossible level of not permitting pastors… the last males inhabiting in the organized Church… to be tempted in the first place by female flesh. Because the alternative would be wifey giving him a… meaty reason to be faithful.
A Happy Ending To Pastor Pokluda’s Persecution
Today, we receive a formal response from a safely-sinecured professional Churchian! Sam Rainer of “Church Answers” stood up to answer the question of how to preempt churchmen from even being tempted to disobey Her Majesty!
Let HER do the job! It’s HER turn!
Do it like a Daddy, pastors! Make her happy by abdicating to her in everything until she cashes you out in disgust! Just like you advised husbands to behave for decades, paying no attention to the mounting corpse-piles of good men who trusted you! It’s called “servant leadership” and now it’s YOUR turn!
Leading a church when the wrong people hold power
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By By Sam Rainer, 13 March 2023
Heehee. Rainer’s subconscious is all over this article like a bouncy ball of guilt! Starting with the title!
Who are these “Wrong People” in church leadership at the moment? Pastor Pokluda specifically, who was so unfaithful to his wife (twenty years previous) that when a hot chick homewrecker tried to seduce him… he resisted!
This is obviously unacceptable. Wives cannot trust a single Bible verse will keep Pastor Hubby faithful to his marital vows! No, the church must no longer tolerate male pastors who are vulnerable to being tempted! But how can that be achieved when God Himself did not achieve it even in Eden?
Simple… it’s time to replace all male clergy. It’s the only way to be sure.
Can you lead a church without proper authority? Yes, but it is more challenging and complex.
Just like fatherhood! Wait… wait, fathers WERE the proper authority in their marriages. Rainer wants to talk about accepting leaders with no proper, legitimate authority.
I.m assuming most church leaders would rather not step into a situation where they have the responsibility to shepherd without the corresponding authority. But there are churches with misaligned power structures in desperate need of good pastors. What if you end up in such a situation? Leading without power requires informal authority.
That paragraph does not mean what it says, once you know the context of the Pokluda scandal. Let me retype it:
“I.m assuming most church women would rather not step into a situation where they have the responsibility to shepherd without the corresponding Biblical authority. But there are churches with masculine, patriarchal threats that justify you doing exactly that! What should you call that situation in order to circumvent the Bible’s prohibition on female leadership? “Informal authority.”
Informal authority. Satan’s latest play-word.
Informal authority is earned through social skills, emotional intelligence and expertise.
aka being female.
Unlike being at the top of a chain of command, those with informal authority do not have coercive power. How might informal authority look in a church? When everyone in the business meeting waits on a nod from the matriarch in the back of the room before voting, that’s informal authority.
DAYUMN HE SAID IT!!!
While much power comes from formal positions with legitimate authority…
DAYUMN HE SAID IT AGAIN!!! “Legitimate authority”! Follow the guilty bouncing conscience, everybody!
…a different kind of power is found in leadership roles with informal authority. How is this power exhibited?
To use the example that the author himself suggested…
1. By withholding sex until she gets what she wants.
2. By emotional blackmail and gaslighting.
3. By playing “let’s you and him fight”.
4. By lying.
5. By doing evil and seeing if you get a pass.
6. …And if you don’t, threatening to involve the police, child services or other third parties. See #3.
7. By using hostages. Especially children.
8. By cooperating with the other shrewish princesses married to church leaders.
Sorry I couldn’t make it a top-10 list, but women don’t have many tricks once you penetrate the deceptions and lies.
Informal authority allows leaders to raise difficult questions. Leaders without titles and positions can vocalize the questions everyone is thinking about but will not say them out loud.
In the real world, it’s the formal leaders at the top who can say & do whatever they want. In Social Justice, however, ‘official authority’ is not allowed to speak ‘truth to power’. It is part of the moral inversion.
Some questions are so difficult that if top leaders began posing them, people might question the organization’s viability. For instance, imagine the media reaction if our president openly began asking about what’s really going on at Area 51.
Sam must have missed those press conferences, where the White House described the ongoing UFO invasion of American airspace and resulting military responses. They say it’s not all Chinese spy balloons.
Stupid Clucking Clown World!
Meanwhile, notice that “if a top leader said that, people would question his organization’s viability” is exactly the Pokluda scandal. He said what he thought, what WAS, a righteous act, but he also admitted to being tempted by another woman. And pastors don’t get to say that. So say the “informal leaders” of the church.
Informal authority allows leaders to focus on one issue. Top leaders typically deal with a number of issues within an organization. Such is the nature of positions with formal authority. For example, a CEO must be concerned about human resources, cash flow, marketing, and public relations. An individual with informal authority, however, is free to focus on more nuanced and narrow issues or even a particular issue. If you are a pastor without formal authority, you are freer to focus on one or two issues while letting others continue to lead.
Here is where Sam Rainer begins selling pastors on the idea of empowering women to “help him lead”. Which will have the exact same outcome of empowering wives to “help her husband lead”.
Those “CEO issues”? HR, cash flow, marketing and public relations? Those and dead languages, are what pastors study in seminary. Rainer is offering pastors the opportunity to hand off inconvenient pastoral responsibilities to an available, ahem, matriarch… his word, not mine.
I hope every pastor reading this, is dizzy from all the flashbacks to the marriage counseling sessions where he cut Scriptural corners to justify wives second-guessing her legitimate-authority husband.
Ye Cuck Clergy, did ye think your turn would never come? Did ye think that appeasing the woman instead of God would bring you contentment?
Can ye not recognize, this is a reenactment of literal Original Sin! She rebels, he submits!
Informal authority allows leaders to break through formal hierarchies, policies, and protocols. Formal authority, by design, has a hierarchy with an expected protocol. A leader with informal authority, however, is not bound by the structure of a formal authority system. A school superintendent, for example, must follow certain protocols in dealing with problems. An informal leader at the school, however, has more flexibility in breaking through these formalities and can deal with the problem in a way the superintendent cannot.
Those policies and protocols exist, among other reasons, to prevent the abuse of power. Would Rainer advocate vigilantism as preferable, in many situations, to uniformed law enforcement? Because vigilantes aren’t restrained by the presumption of innocence? Then he shouldn’t advocate the spiritual version of that.
Not even “spiritual equivalent”. Rainer is LITERALLY advocating spiritual vigilantism outside of God-ordained leadership.
Does ordination mean ANYTHING any more?
And ‘vigilantism’ is a KIND way of putting this point. The nasty way is ‘Deep State’. Just think about how much more effective the school districts are, now that they’re no longer restrained by laws against forced medication and child sex mutilation! Think of how much more money the IRS will collect when the watchdogs are dismissed! We don’t need no stinkin’ protocols!
For serious! Rainer is advocating literal lawlessness in GOD’S CHURCH! “Poor pastor, so busy with the payroll! If only somebody would ‘handle’ these accusations against the deacon, he wouldn’t have to be seen taking any sides!”
We even saw this in Scripture! Here’s the story of Absalom’s “informal leadership” and what came of it.
Segue
2 Samuel 15:2-6, 12b.
[Absalom] would get up early and stand by the side of the road leading to the city gate. Whenever anyone came with a complaint to be placed before the king for a decision, Absalom would call out to him, .What town are you from?. He would answer, .Your servant is from one of the tribes of Israel.” Then Absalom would say to him, .Look, your claims are valid and proper, but there is no representative of the king to hear you.” And Absalom would add, .If only I were appointed judge in the land! Then everyone who has a complaint or case could come to me and I would see that they receive justice..
Also, whenever anyone approached him to bow down before him, Absalom would reach out his hand, take hold of him and kiss him. Absalom behaved in this way toward all the Israelites who came to the king asking for justice, and so he stole the hearts of the people of Israel.
He stood in for the rightful ruler, the king, without the king’s authority, and because he acted as the ruler, people eventually accepted him as their ruler.
“And so the conspiracy gained strength, and Absalom’s following kept on increasing.”
It took four years for Absalom to ‘build his brand’ enough to overthrow King David. I always wondered how David never noticed for four years? Now, I wonder if David was simply happy that many of his problems had quietly vanished for no reason at all.
King David ended up fleeing for his life. But but but Absalom never appeared on the royal org chart! That means his rule was INFORMAL and not a usurpation!
End segue
Rainer is making the case here for real female authority in the Church, with the justification that it’s “informal authority”, with no formal limitations placed upon her power to act. While Pastor retains all the limitations of being the responsible half of the relationship.
Rainer is doing it like a Daddy! “Of course you’re in charge, Larry! You’re responsible and she’s free to act. That’s what it means to be the boss.” Whether Larry is a pastor or a father.
Informal authority allows leaders the flexibility not to be a figurehead for all people in the organization. Top leaders with formal authority must act on behalf of everyone within an organization. They represent the people. They speak on behalf of the people. Leaders with informal authority do not have to act as figureheads. Unlike formal leaders, informal leaders can offend some and favor others to accomplish a goal.
So then, we aren’t talking about Pastor delegating his authority. We’re talking about an entirely separate authority that Pastor is free to disavow.
This entire article is disgusting. “Pastors should be able to stamp the forms and file the tax exemptions without making any hard decisions about morality or doctrine. For that, he needs ‘informal leaders’ who are above the law, not held to account and free to do what… what must be done. For the greater good.”
Ambitious leaders often pursue positions with formal authority. It makes sense. Those who desire to lead want the official capacity to do so. Positions with titles imply a legitimate endorsement to lead. But there are some advantages to leading with informal authority. Informal leaders have no official titles and no authoritative positions, yet they can wield much influence.
Female usurpation of male privilege is what he’s talking about, not the art of making a deal. Peacemakers are already welcome in church.
Informal authority has its limits, certainly, but also its advantages. And organizations need both informal and formal leaders to balance power and authority.
STILL doing it like a Daddy! “You cannot be a true leader unless your wife helps you lead! Submit to her, as her leader, whenever she knows what she’s doing.”
How does an “informal leader” stop a malcontent from attending church? How does an “informal leader” settle a doctrinal dispute? How does an “informal leader” make a decision whether accusations against a Church officer are serious enough to be entertained? How does an “informal leader” solve a dispute and then enforce their decision?
Simple. THEY DON’T. Because going back to what Rainer himself admitted at the start, quote, “power comes from formal positions with legitimate authority”.
Do you know who is an “informal leader” of every church? The devil. Nobody gave him his authority… he simply took it. No protocol restrains him… he is lawless. And being the First Rebel, he’s free to act in ways that formal, proper, God-sanctioned authorities never are. Which does, admittedly, give him great latitude to handle all the leadership issues that Pastor Cucky McSpineless cannot be bothered with.
“Unlike being at the top of a chain of command, those with informal authority do not have coercive power. How might informal authority look in a church? When everyone in the business meeting waits on a nod from the matriarch in the back of the room before voting, that.s informal authority.”
They are the ones with the coercive power actually. How it works in practice is not an old “matriarch” sitting in the back of the auditorium during the “business meeting” smoking her cigar and giving the nod. In practice even with no women there the elders defer a decision claiming they must pray on it or sleep on it but really they must go ask wifey what to do; then they bring her decision to the other elders in secret and since all the elders’ wives are hive mind plugged in with feminism anyway the elders find they were all given the same marching orders from momma, and then in the next “business meeting” they announce their decision. Its been going on since the 80s in my experience, nothing new.
At what point do we admit that there are no real churches left anymore, only churchian simulacra? At what point do we view all of this nonsense as mildly amusing entertainment, the inevitable stages of collapse within organizations that absndoned God and His Scriptures decades ago?
One begins to wonder if the only way to save a church from a satanic takeover is to de-fellowship all women.
Rule by unelected incompetent unaccountable apparatchiks is a feature of the Great Reset Leap Forward.
The church was infiltrated after the money/banking system in the Long March for a reason.
I need no middleman for communion and have no use for rockstar carnival atmosphere enable the not so Great Replacement while making money hand over fist tax exempt churches.